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Would you join a labor union with the opportunity?

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no
boner police?
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Why not?
BOOM
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prole
boner police?
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*proudly adding a "union made" watermark in the ma...
U-Boat Cmdr Getting Ghosted by a Lorient Bumble 4
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HEAD of STIM DEVELOPMENT
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~~(>' ' )>
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Thankers Local 23
Martin Prince
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cornhusker
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><<(^((*>
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Of course, because if you have the opportunity that means th...
corporate slave reading Kafka by the beach
  06/12/18
USW member here. Hate unions, but hypocritically love being ...
dirte
  06/12/18
so.... why do you hate unions?
Hold Up, Crypto Teen.
  06/12/18
The conservative in me. Mostly, I hate Public Employee Union...
dirte
  06/12/18
cr, they are bad adn now most of union members
Hold Up, Crypto Teen.
  06/12/18
Heís been brainwashed by gc to reflexively hate unions. Most...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
  06/12/18
Public Employee Unions are SPS
dirte
  06/12/18
Some are,some arenít. You said you hate unions generally, ev...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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I hate and love unions for basically the same reason. Job se...
dirte
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I don't understand why anyone should have to accept some tot...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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niggardly jigger
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alzabo
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histrionic bitchmade lawyerfaggot
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just because he abstractly hates the kind of people he assum...
gaggle of IvyLeaguers from a Aaron Sorkin script
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OberTRUMPENfuerhur
  06/12/18
Hell yes
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Hold Up, Crypto Teen.
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BOOM
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alzabo
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I'm in one. It's...fine. We have good benefits and all tha...
beckersted.
  06/12/18
We're in contract negotiations right now. Tons of strike tal...
dirte
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you're in a situation where they could fuck you if you did. ...
beckersted.
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anyone who goes on strike today is nuts
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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We've threatened it the past few contracts. Always come to a...
dirte
  06/12/18
in public unions, it's a threat with no teeth since the elec...
beckersted.
  06/12/18
and this is why public sector unions need to be banned again
''"'"''"
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agreed.
beckersted.
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cr
dirte
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fucking union rents buses to pick people up in the hood to g...
beckersted.
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'Merica lol
dirte
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LOL Yeah... I won't cross specifically because the guys I...
dirte
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Correction everyone except for people in your industry is nu...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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cr.
beckersted.
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><<(^((*>
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exactly. you are in a profession that actually could use an...
beckersted.
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"I would probably be shot if I crossed the picket line....
ESL TM..,..;;.
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no it's not real and hasn't been, with very (very very) litt...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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I delt with union BS several years ago. They're awful. Any...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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was there lots of violence and thuggery involved?
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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A ton of thuggery. Apparently, it is totally normal and exp...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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lol please describe the thuggery you experienced.
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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I don't want to give too many specifics on a public forum. ...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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good thinking. some soyboy fag from SEIU with a che sticker ...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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Lolno. This wasn't one of those softbatch unions.
ESL TM..,..;;.
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i'm a management-side labor lawyer and have been for over 10...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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Oh? I've been the poor sap that gets forced to work union j...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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management side for seven. have seen violence but only twic...
bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)
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you fucking freeloading piece of shit kill all scabs
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alzabo
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labor unions are communist and their leaders should be presu...
RCP90 (semi-retired)
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in a heartbeat, but really need a labor law background to wa...
dcpoast (41 yr old shirtless guitar player)
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Iím a labor lawyer breh. Iíll volunteer my services
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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high tech and higher ed slaves need representation against t...
dcpoast (41 yr old shirtless guitar player)
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I do a fair amount of work for universities (keeping the wor...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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You could make a fortune up here as a "union buster&quo...
dirte
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Seems chill
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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working for the university while their family dies, https://...
dcpoast (41 yr old shirtless guitar player)
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jfc that's terrible
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same, in MI any interest in connecting IRL? Iím manageme...
bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)
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As a low-level employee, 100% yes.
XIV
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American Litigators Federation No trannies! They can blow...
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BOOM
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No. And I support national RTW legislation. No one should ...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Mmmmm. Is that Redwing?
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No. Public sector unions should be illegal and private secto...
Wilbur Mercer-Bey
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Public unions - illegal. Private unions - RTW and held re...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Don't worry, publicly traded, multinational conglomerate. TM...
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alzabo
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Incidentally, I'm actually fine with more stringent labor re...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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That would be fine if employers didn't completely own lawmak...
alzabo
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Not really, no. Somehow, my wife and I have good jobs for w...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Because you each have 110+ IQs, went into $200k of debt each...
alzabo
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Uh, so you shouldn't need to be smart, take risks and work h...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Living wage != 100k plus, but even then it would be better t...
alzabo
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Sorry you're a literal Communist. You guys are total scum a...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Yeah destroying "this" society would be 180.
alzabo
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I just wish other libs were as honest as you.
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Collective bargaining isn't inherently communist, not even c...
~~(>' ' )>
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Describing shareholders as parasitic is, however.
ESL TM..,..;;.
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As I see it, owners (via management) play hardball, using ev...
~~(>' ' )>
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owners have capital and control over the business to use as ...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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Bad analysis, TMF. The proper question is whether you wou...
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A job that pays over $200k/year? Pretty sure the answer is ...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Tell me why you think you're better off negotiating on your ...
~~(>' ' )>
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Heís been brainwashed to reflexively hate unions and doesnít...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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Because the whole schtick of a union is everyone makes more ...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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this is a real retard-level analysis
A Jurisprudence is Performed
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this does not make sense. you do make more than most people...
zurich is stained (but it's not my fault)
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"i would venture a guess that you and your coworkers ma...
ESL TM..,..;;.
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"Not standardized!" *talks about salary bands*
~~(>' ' )>
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There are people in my band making half as much as I do.
ESL TM..,..;;.
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Luckily for you and other in-house worker bee rock stars, it...
~~(>' ' )>
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You think you would get paid less? Is it because you're a fu...
~~(>' ' )>
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Pretty much.
ESL TM..,..;;.
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no, but i would join a workers cooperative
are we not all but thai boys
  06/13/18
I'm in the ABA
A Jurisprudence is Performed
  06/14/18


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Date: June 12th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36233789)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36235085)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36238698)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36246223)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239803)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240312)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36243829)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:45 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36242333)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36235145)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36235147)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:48 AM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36235666)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: boner police?

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36233794)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)

Why not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36233802)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: boner police?

prole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36241286)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: U-Boat Cmdr Getting Ghosted by a Lorient Bumble 4

*proudly adding a "union made" watermark in the margin of your brief

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36233845)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: HEAD of STIM DEVELOPMENT (80+ STIMS and his ENGORGED FUCKSTICK IS ERUPTING)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234765)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234965)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: Martin Prince (a prancing scholar's scholar)

Thankers Local 23

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237296)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239771)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: cornhusker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239806)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: ><<(^((*> (0x9219DDFD2869edABd47A8e905e87d76e42C712da)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240745)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:09 PM
Author: corporate slave reading Kafka by the beach

Of course, because if you have the opportunity that means there is a negotiated agreement and you likely need to be a member to take full advantage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36233878)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: dirte

USW member here. Hate unions, but hypocritically love being in a union. Incredible job security, high pay, great benefits, pension, 7% matching 401K, and management is really good to us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234071)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: Hold Up, Crypto Teen.

so.... why do you hate unions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234079)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:39 PM
Author: dirte

The conservative in me. Mostly, I hate Public Employee Unions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234091)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: Hold Up, Crypto Teen.

cr, they are bad adn now most of union members

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234100)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

Heís been brainwashed by gc to reflexively hate unions. Most people have. Thatís why wages are shit and the 1% is balling out of control.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234212)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: dirte

Public Employee Unions are SPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234465)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

Some are,some arenít. You said you hate unions generally, even yours, which you acknowledge is the reason you are well compensated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234741)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: dirte

I hate and love unions for basically the same reason. Job security. Love that I can basically never be fired, but I hate that we can't fire terrible employees. There are so many guys that have basically done nothing for 20+ years and they make everyone else look bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234759)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

I don't understand why anyone should have to accept some total shithead for life because otherwise some organized labor racket will fuck up their shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237356)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: ><<(^((*> (0x9219DDFD2869edABd47A8e905e87d76e42C712da)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234728)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: niggardly jigger



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234760)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: alzabo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237731)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: histrionic bitchmade lawyerfaggot (0x2977839747E30b47B2d218850629c2aD447B23ad)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237742)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: gaggle of IvyLeaguers from a Aaron Sorkin script

just because he abstractly hates the kind of people he assumes work for public employee unions (i.e. blacks, liberals, etc). Conservatives love socialism when they are the sole beneficiaries, but at the core of every conservative's being is a festering, inchoate rage and resentment at the thought of people not exactly like themselves being allowed to live decent and comfortable lives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240483)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: OberTRUMPENfuerhur



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36235004)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: ><<(^((*> (0x9219DDFD2869edABd47A8e905e87d76e42C712da)

Hell yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234080)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: Hold Up, Crypto Teen.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234084)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234690)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: alzabo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239835)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: beckersted.

I'm in one. It's...fine. We have good benefits and all that shit. But if they strike, I'm crossing DAY ONE and trying to steal fuckers jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234734)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: dirte

We're in contract negotiations right now. Tons of strike talk. God I hope we just get another contract. I would probably be shot if I crossed the picket line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234743)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: beckersted.

you're in a situation where they could fuck you if you did. i work with pussies. they will say and do absolutely jack shit if anyone crossed the picket line. and they know everyone would.

but, lo and behold, it's a public sector union. management and labor are BOTH in the same union. so...yeah. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234753)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

anyone who goes on strike today is nuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234764)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: dirte

We've threatened it the past few contracts. Always come to agreement the night before contract is due.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234778)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: beckersted.

in public unions, it's a threat with no teeth since the elected officials who you are really "negotiating against" are usually on your side. they want to give you more shit so the union continues to deliver votes and donations and use the union as a political arm.

my union biweekly is basically 1970s Pravda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234784)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: ''"'"''"

and this is why public sector unions need to be banned again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234804)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: beckersted.

agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234811)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: dirte

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234814)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: beckersted.

fucking union rents buses to pick people up in the hood to go vote. using union dues you don't pay, they just take it. this is why Janus is terrifying for them.

they are basically an arm of the democrat party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234822)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: dirte

'Merica

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234813)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: dirte

LOL

Yeah... I won't cross specifically because the guys I work with are NOT pussies. I would literally get the shit kicked out of me and my house torched.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234771)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

Correction everyone except for people in your industry is nuts if they strike. You guys can actually pull it off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234780)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:19 PM
Author: beckersted.

cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234799)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: ><<(^((*> (0x9219DDFD2869edABd47A8e905e87d76e42C712da)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234819)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: beckersted.

exactly. you are in a profession that actually could use and should use union protections.

my dad was a teamster.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234796)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

"I would probably be shot if I crossed the picket line."

Union violence is real and a big reason why no one should encourage them. They're just another mafia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237273)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

no it's not real and hasn't been, with very (very very) little exception, since the 1970s or so.

corporate interests have done a really astounding job of turning people against unions in this country, to the point where most people are virulently against them and either can't articulate why or just claim they're full of "communists" and "thugs."

it's really amazing how effective this PR campaign has been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237294)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

I delt with union BS several years ago. They're awful. Anyone who ever deals with them will realize what a terrible idea it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237321)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

was there lots of violence and thuggery involved?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237330)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:06 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

A ton of thuggery. Apparently, it is totally normal and expected.

I've been 100% anti-union ever since I realized what they are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237339)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:11 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

lol please describe the thuggery you experienced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237382)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

I don't want to give too many specifics on a public forum. But holy shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237398)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

good thinking. some soyboy fag from SEIU with a che sticker on his prius might show up at your house!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237442)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Lolno. This wasn't one of those softbatch unions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237463)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:24 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

i'm a management-side labor lawyer and have been for over 10 years. I've dealt with more unions than you can name, in contentious contract negotiations, arbitrations, grievance hearings, NLRB trials, etc. I've never once been involved in a situation where I thought that physical violence seemed even remotely possible.

but i'd love to hear your story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237493)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Oh? I've been the poor sap that gets forced to work union jobs while they're on strike. I STRONGLY disagree with that assessment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237498)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)

management side for seven. have seen violence but only twice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36241264)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: gaggle of IvyLeaguers from a Aaron Sorkin script

you fucking freeloading piece of shit

kill all scabs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240496)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: alzabo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240499)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: RCP90 (semi-retired)

labor unions are communist and their leaders should be presumed anti-american

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234777)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: dcpoast (41 yr old shirtless guitar player)

in a heartbeat, but really need a labor law background to wage war against Management

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234792)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:21 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

Iím a labor lawyer breh. Iíll volunteer my services

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234817)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: dcpoast (41 yr old shirtless guitar player)

high tech and higher ed slaves need representation against the Man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234828)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

I do a fair amount of work for universities (keeping the working man and their union down)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234837)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: dirte

You could make a fortune up here as a "union buster".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234853)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

Seems chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234878)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:30 PM
Author: dcpoast (41 yr old shirtless guitar player)

working for the university while their family dies, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO7ZWfvCjBE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234865)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: ,,,,,,^Pumo ,,,,,,^On ,,,,,,^The ,,,,,,^Sybian

jfc that's terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237334)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: bigdogEAT (retired 6/18/18)

same, in MI

any interest in connecting IRL? Iím management side

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36241241)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: XIV

As a low-level employee, 100% yes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234808)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

American Litigators Federation

No trannies! They can blow GC and negotiate with management individually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36234952)



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Date: June 12th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: BOOM (Lol)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36235133)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

No. And I support national RTW legislation. No one should ever be forced to deal with unions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237261)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Mmmmm. Is that Redwing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239781)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Wilbur Mercer-Bey (Short Pride World Wide)

No. Public sector unions should be illegal and private sector unions tend to look out for the union rather than the members

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237436)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Public unions - illegal.

Private unions - RTW and held responsible for any violence/intimidation/bad acts of membership.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36237454)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Don't worry, publicly traded, multinational conglomerate. TMF has your back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239793)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: alzabo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239829)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Incidentally, I'm actually fine with more stringent labor regulations while clamping down on unions. It turns out that using organized crime like entities to "represent" workers in exchange for forced payments (almost like protection money) isn't a great way to run things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36239930)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: alzabo

That would be fine if employers didn't completely own lawmakers, but they do. Both sides are engaging in class warfare, and unions are the only way for workers to fight back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240006)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Not really, no. Somehow, my wife and I have good jobs for way more pay than almost any union workers and are not represented by a union. Why do you suppose that is?

Also, the class warfare narrative is awful and part of the reasons unions need to go away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240017)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: alzabo

Because you each have 110+ IQs, went into $200k of debt each to go to law school, and then got lucky enough to get decent jobs. You're not a representative sample of the American worker, and your situation shouldn't be what we base policy around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240051)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Uh, so you shouldn't need to be smart, take risks and work hard to expect a salary many times median real income?

Look at this chart: https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEPAINUSA672N

Unions have declined significantly during that time. Median personal income has gone up. Explain to me why all these sub 110iq people "deserve" $100k salaries because they joined some organized crime, er, labor group that essentially says "lovely factory, wouldn't want anything to happen to it, would ya?"

This BS is why US manufacturing collapsed.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240165)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: alzabo

Living wage != 100k plus, but even then it would be better than parasitic "shareholders" getting that money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240211)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Sorry you're a literal Communist. You guys are total scum and would destroy society if you could.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240222)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:00 PM
Author: alzabo

Yeah destroying "this" society would be 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240230)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

I just wish other libs were as honest as you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240325)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Collective bargaining isn't inherently communist, not even close.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240744)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Describing shareholders as parasitic is, however.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240841)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:40 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

As I see it, owners (via management) play hardball, using every advantage they can get. I don't see anything wrong (and much right) with employees doing the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36241198)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

owners have capital and control over the business to use as leverage. employees have (or they may not have) the ability to band together and threaten a work stoppage as leverage.

i don't understand people's knee-jerk reaction to unions as bad, communist, etc. while they, at the same time, either have no issue with, or praise, employers getting the most out of their employees for the least amount of money (which is their right).

GC has run a fantastic PR campaign against unions.

and although TMF has tried to recast his negative comments about unions as stemming from their violent activity (which, again, is nil compared to what it was back in the day) it's pretty obvious that he just has a visceral negative reaction to labor unions generally - not just those that employ thug tactics or engage in corruption (again, a VERY small percentage).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244302)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Bad analysis, TMF.

The proper question is whether you would be better off in your current job if you had union representation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240721)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

A job that pays over $200k/year? Pretty sure the answer is no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240838)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Tell me why you think you're better off negotiating on your own. Is it because you're so fucking fearsome? Because you hold all the cards? Something else?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36241185)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

Heís been brainwashed to reflexively hate unions and doesnít even realize it. That and the alleged thuggery he experienced that he wonít talk about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36241309)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Because the whole schtick of a union is everyone makes more or less standardized amounts. I make much more than most, so that would be a bad thing for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244221)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

this is a real retard-level analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244241)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: zurich is stained (but it's not my fault) (ass smells like a dick)

this does not make sense. you do make more than most people, but that is completely irrelevant. unionized janitors make less - much, much less - than unionized nurses.

you are in-house at a company, right? i would venture a guess that you and your coworkers make "more or less standardized amounts." that is what you seem to be criticizing in your post. (incidentally, in the bargaining units i have in "intellectual" jobs, such as journalism and medicine, the employer generally has a clause allowing it to grant additional "merit" pay increases beyond what is called for in the CBA).

would you make more or have cheaper benefits if you had a union? nobody can say - all depends on whether your employer bargained hard and whether you and your coworkers were willing to use your leverage to get the employer to agree to your demands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244347)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

"i would venture a guess that you and your coworkers make "more or less standardized amounts.""

It turns out, not so much. The only thing standardized is the extras based on your band. Things like what % of salary are bonus, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244370)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:10 AM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

"Not standardized!"

*talks about salary bands*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244415)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

There are people in my band making half as much as I do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244442)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

Luckily for you and other in-house worker bee rock stars, it is not accurate to say that the whole shtick of unions is to see that everyone makes more or less standardized amounts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244771)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: ~~(>' ' )>

You think you would get paid less? Is it because you're a fucking rock star worker bee in-house lawyer who would be brought down to the level of the regular worker bee in-house lawyers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244363)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: ESL TM..,..;;.

Pretty much.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36244374)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: are we not all but thai boys (askav)

no, but i would join a workers cooperative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36240764)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed

I'm in the ABA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4000575&forum_id=2#36243731)