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Is Sessions playing the long game or incompetent, is rosenstein deep state or no

The people I follow on twitter can't agree on these question...
Consuela
  06/13/18
rosenstein is 1000% deep state
biglaw lives matter (retired)
  06/13/18
This much seems clear.
Jean Jacques Jingleheimerdood
  06/13/18
Then why won't sessions get rid of him? To believe rosenste...
Consuela
  06/13/18
sessions largely culpable & a coward (and probably incom...
biglaw lives matter (retired)
  06/13/18
You forget Stephen miller worked for sessions for 7 years an...
Consuela
  06/13/18
overpasses
biglaw lives matter (retired)
  06/13/18
sessions is incompetent, hth
t bone
  06/13/18
But there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. For exampl...
Consuela
  06/13/18
Ljl at thinking sessions is incompetent. He wants trump gone...
proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street
  06/13/18
Sessions was the first senator to publicly back trump, he to...
Consuela
  06/13/18
Of course he did. Heís smart and recognized trump could win....
proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street
  06/13/18
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Ultimate Turbo Faggot
  06/14/18
Sessions is extremely competent, and benefits from all the h...
napoleone
  06/13/18
Ljl
proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street
  06/13/18
yes, i agree that trump publicly berating sessions give sess...
Consuela
  06/13/18
Sessions is 100% compromised
libcrusher180
  06/13/18
state your reaosning
Consuela
  06/13/18
Lmao
''''''"'''''
  06/13/18
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biglaw lives matter (retired)
  06/13/18
Long game, bro.
my dog takes more 7.5 mi constitutionals than I do
  06/13/18
If that's the case why did Sessions recuse himself from the ...
Consuela
  06/13/18
That was a mistake, obv. Since then Sessions has been keepin...
my dog takes more 7.5 mi constitutionals than I do
  06/13/18
Trump noms Sessions 10 days after the election. At that poi...
.....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;
  06/14/18
Sessions is trying to rebuild the institutional integrity of...
Benevolent Screed
  06/13/18
Good analysis of rosenstein, but your sessions analysis seem...
Consuela
  06/13/18
So much idiocy on this poast that I couldnít go further afte...
''''''"'''''
  06/13/18
Feel free to add your own analysis to this thread, it's not ...
Consuela
  06/13/18
(1) Sessions had a conflict. (2) Conflicts require recusal.
''''''"'''''
  06/13/18
Please describe the nature of the conflict - if you are goin...
Consuela
  06/13/18
I would have to look at whatever OPR rules were implicated, ...
''''''"'''''
  06/13/18
old and daft
Tactical Bowl Cut
  06/13/18
...
:D
  06/13/18
This is specifically regarding clearing out the deep state e...
Consuela
  06/13/18
http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/06/13/trumps-vino-vixen-compil...
:D
  06/13/18
Nonresponsive brah
Consuela
  06/13/18
...
Consuela
  06/13/18
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Consuela
  06/14/18


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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:39 AM
Author: Consuela

The people I follow on twitter can't agree on these questions

There's a lot of conflicting evidence to me, can't make up my mind

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237583)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: biglaw lives matter (retired)

rosenstein is 1000% deep state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237590)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Jean Jacques Jingleheimerdood

This much seems clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237592)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:42 AM
Author: Consuela

Then why won't sessions get rid of him? To believe rosenstein is deep state is to believe Sessions is incompetent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237596)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: biglaw lives matter (retired)

sessions largely culpable & a coward (and probably incompetent). clinton loyalists & GOP cucks pushed him on Trump as DOJ1 to secretly protect against that "clinton special prosecutor" Trump promised in the debates. that promise rattled a LOT of guilty deep staters, all of whom had traceable clinton connections. right now sessions probably knows that the true reason he was tapped by cucks & clinton loyalists is to prevent Trump from ever prosecuting clinton, but he's stupid & a coward so he's looking the other way. also he knows 100% he's fired the minute this witch hunt ends so he's not motivated to fire rosenstein. some people say treasonous deep staters should be hung from overpasses along I-495. that's just something some people say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237657)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Consuela

You forget Stephen miller worked for sessions for 7 years and sessions and miller singlehandedly stopped the gang of 8 amnesty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237718)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: biglaw lives matter (retired)

overpasses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237776)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: t bone (ggtp)

sessions is incompetent, hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237681)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Consuela

But there is plenty of evidence to the contrary. For example, the senate intelligence committee leaker who was just arrested turned cooperating witness 6 months ago. His whole network seems like it will get rolled up. This is a result from the leak investigations sessions put into place a year ago.

And don't forget about sessions attaching an outside prosecutor to the OIG investigations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237705)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street

Ljl at thinking sessions is incompetent. He wants trump gone so he and pence can continue their agenda.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237719)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: Consuela

Sessions was the first senator to publicly back trump, he took enormous heat for it and he barely passed the senate confirmation hearing vote

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237727)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street

Of course he did. Heís smart and recognized trump could win. Doesnít mean he has any loyalty to him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237766)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 4:31 AM
Author: Ultimate Turbo Faggot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36243134)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: napoleone

Sessions is extremely competent, and benefits from all the heat he gets from Trump, which gives him an aura of independence, which is what a Justice Department is supposed to exhibit.

Rosenstein in a piece of shit who threatened to criminally investigate House oversight committee staffers who pushed for the disclosure of info that would show misconduct by DOJ and the FBI. One might easily conclude that Rosenstein is obstructing justice. I think in doing so he also committed an ethical violation under the Rules of Professional Conduct. My guess is that Rosenstein will be fired, lose his law license, and prosecuted for misconduct before Trump leaves office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237819)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: proles in Owsley County, KY partying in the street

Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237830)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Consuela

yes, i agree that trump publicly berating sessions give sessions political cover to conduct his investigations

re: rosenstein, the counterargument is that giving congressional oversight the key documents they request will result in those documents leaking like a sieve out into the public which will in turn compromise ongoing investigations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237832)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: libcrusher180

Sessions is 100% compromised

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36237825)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 1:14 PM
Author: Consuela

state your reaosning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36238143)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: ''''''"'''''

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36240236)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: biglaw lives matter (retired)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36240604)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: my dog takes more 7.5 mi constitutionals than I do (take THAT, Uber!)

Long game, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36240619)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: Consuela

If that's the case why did Sessions recuse himself from the Russia investigation without disclosing to trump before he became AG that he would consider doing so? And rosenstein was deeply involved in the uranium one scandal, pushed to make mueller head of the FBI, immediately appointed mueller special prosecutor after Comey was fired and never recused himself despite the clear conflict of interest in recommending comedy's termination, and his wife is an ultra lib kook ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36240730)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: my dog takes more 7.5 mi constitutionals than I do (take THAT, Uber!)

That was a mistake, obv. Since then Sessions has been keeping his head down, advancing a very needed policy of enforcing immigration laws. I believe TRUMPís various tweets attacking him are intentional to lure the shits in the justice department to making more mistakes.

Impeachment is a political decision. After the midterms, when the Dems wonít get their precious majorities, the Deep State will start coming down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36240746)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 5:27 AM
Author: .....;;,,.........;.;.;.;.,;,;,;.;.;,;


Trump noms Sessions 10 days after the election. At that point Sessions could have understandably expected that the Russia story would die down. The key question is why he selfpwn3d in his confirmation hearings, since that was the real media club being used against him when he recused. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Trump (or Bannon or someone else high up enough to be giving him orders about how to answer certain questions) told Sessions to basically deny everything re Russia. This is when Pence is out in the media fucking up re Flynn too. Even if he did just freelance and fuck up terribly, Trump's "I would have picked somebody else" line is transparent bullshit because there was no reason for Sessions to think he would need to recuse himself in mid Nov or even after the confirmation hearing because at the time his answers weren't controversial. Even when Comey began his self important grandstanding after Trump asked for the loyalty pledge, Sessions could've reasonably expected the Russia issues to die down soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36243182)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: Benevolent Screed

Sessions is trying to rebuild the institutional integrity of the DOJ, while remaining loyal to Trump.

Rosenstein is acting in self-interest to protect his image, and out of malice and spite for Trump. Full stop. Rosenstein also has anger problems, that were apparent well before this latest bizarre threat to the House staffers. Look at him screeching "we will not be extorted!!!!11!!" This is the #2 guy at the Department of Justice claiming Congress is committing extortion by requesting documents pursuant to its oversight authority.

Also, I believe Rosenstein appointed a special counsel out of haste and anger after it became clear his letter to fire Comey was only used as a partial pretext to his termination. This is an angry explosive man that is used to wielding enormous prosecutorial power.

At the outset, Rosenstein allowed Mueller to continue a pre-existing counter-intelligence operation, which is different than starting a criminal probe. Then he wrote a memo three months after appointing Mueller to define the "scope" of what Mueller was allowed to investigate, even though Mueller was already doing it. This is comically corrupt looking. He also re-authorized the FISA warrants against Carter Page three times after Trump was in office. I've no doubt, that under the NSA's two hop rule, Mueller was openly spying on administration officials well into 2017.

I would also assume that Mueller's "referral" of the Cohen issue to SDNY had to be run by Rosenstein first. It is outrageous for the DOJ/FBI to raid the offices of the President's personal lawyer. Libs might be giddy about this stuff, but it setting enormously dangerous precedent for future administrations.

In the end, how can Rosenstein best protect himself and his image? By allowing Mueller to go buck-fucking wild to take down Trump. With Sessions' recusal, there is almost no downside to doing so. No one can accuse Rosenstein of going soft on Trump, even if Mueller only ends up with a bunch of non-Russia process crimes. And if Sessions or Trump steps in and fires him, he'll go down as a martyr and walk right into some K street biglaw office. Make no mistake, Rosenstein's highest loyalty is to himself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36240892)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:19 PM
Author: Consuela

Good analysis of rosenstein, but your sessions analysis seems lacking. Sessions posted a photo of himself dining with rosenstein after trump attacked rosenstein, all buddy buddy and smiling, and sessions has defended rosenstein at every opportunuty - including earlier today or yesterday . Sessions also said if trump fires rosenstein then sessions will go with him.

Sessions could have rosenstein fired for not recusing himself from mueller/conflict of interest , for the scope issue you brought up, for rosenstein signing the fisa warrants spying on trump, or for any number of other reasons. He hasn't done so...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241076)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: ''''''"'''''

So much idiocy on this poast that I couldnít go further after the debilitating cognitive dissonance created by trying to understand this fact-free but also conceptually-retarded sentence

ďAlso, I believe Rosenstein appointed a special counsel out of haste and anger after it became clear his letter to fire Comey was only used as a partial pretext to his termination. This is an angry explosive man that is used to wielding enormous prosecutorial power.Ē

You think Rosenstein wanted the Comey tiring pinned to him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241157)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: Consuela

Feel free to add your own analysis to this thread, it's not limited to trumpmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241202)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: ''''''"'''''

(1) Sessions had a conflict. (2) Conflicts require recusal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241229)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: Consuela

Please describe the nature of the conflict - if you are going to say two brief, minor meetings with Russians you can exit the thread. Also, please explain why he didnt have a duty to tell trump he would recuse if this became an issue prior to trump picking him as AG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241253)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: ''''''"'''''

I would have to look at whatever OPR rules were implicated, but Iím sure recusal has fuzzy doctrine that he could have spun either way. But that would have been a disaster from a political/constitutional perspective. He was in regular contact with a bunch of investigative targets who were in regular contact with intelligence officers from a hostile foreign power. He put his number 2, a political appointee, in charge. If he hadnít recused heíd have to listen to Trumpís third world demands to end the probe and force a constitutional crisis. Sessions understands the countryís constitutional order to well. Trump could always fire him and put Cohen at AG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241327)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:36 PM
Author: Tactical Bowl Cut

old and daft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241169)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: :D (5000 mcg B12/wk, 150 mcg iodine/day, 250 mg algal DHA-EPA/day)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241216)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: Consuela

This is specifically regarding clearing out the deep state elements that remain in government that have tried to overthrow a democratically elected president, and the political actors from the prior administration that planned it out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241222)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: :D (5000 mcg B12/wk, 150 mcg iodine/day, 250 mg algal DHA-EPA/day)

http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/06/13/trumps-vino-vixen-compiles-loyalty-list-of-u-s-employees-at-u-n-state-mari-stull-political-appointee-state-department-international-organization-united-nations-political-retribution-chaos-dysfunction/

Don't worry we have a mommy blogger enforcer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241247)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: Consuela

Nonresponsive brah

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36241284)



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Date: June 13th, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Consuela



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36242204)



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Date: June 14th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Consuela



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4001091&forum_id=2#36244904)